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Post by Rivergal on Jun 9, 2012 11:08:56 GMT -6
This board has been created for the discussion of and research into French-Indian ancestry/genealogy. The moderator is knowledgeable in this field and willing to help with research. Hopefully, we will attract other people with expertise to contribute but no question is considered too basic. If you are interested in researching your ancestry as far as the Midwestern fur traders and pioneers are concerned--this is the place. The forum is called "French-Indian" but other Europeans who are connected to the settlement of the Mississippi River Valley and fur trade are welcome to be investigated. Be polite and have fun!
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Post by Eric LaPointe on Oct 25, 2018 19:01:38 GMT -6
My cousin Ernie LaPointe (we have the same grand father but different grand mothers) is the great grand son of Sitting Bull. He wrote a book and gives talks in USA and Europe. But he can not state the name of his great great grand father except it is a LaPointe who did visit S. Dakota about 1850. I am the elder who should know the family tree but I failed to listen. Oral stories relate that 3 brothers came from Canada to Wisconsin and married Sioux ladies. One was named Pierre LaPointe and he could be the lost trader? So some how I found you and your history of a Pierre LaPointe which gave me courage to find this lost history. I found a Pierre LaPointe in St. Louis in 1816 as an interpreter at a treaty meeting with the Santee Sioux. But your Pierre dies in 1821 about age 70 so he was too old. St. Louis Pierre would be born about 1885 and learn the language from his mother. Maybe he was the son of one of the brothers and did travel to St. Louis for this meeting? We have death certificates for the first LaPointe men who are enrolled Sioux. My great grand father is Jack LaPointe born 1850 and he never talked about his father. On the Yankton Reservation we found marked graves for Pierre LaPointe, Jr. born 1849 and John LaPointe born 1855. We have asked the Yankton LaPointe's if they know the name of the father of these brothers and they all think it is Pierre, Sr. We can not tie the Pierre in St. Louis in 1816 to the Pierre in S. Dakota in 1850 and with Sioux ladies. In 1850 he would be 65 years old and too old to be in the wild and having children? I am from the Pine Ridge Reservation and so is Ernie because our fathers are enrolled Oglala. Any guidance to solve our family history problem would be appreciated. Thanks. With no computer skill, hope this works? Eric
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Post by Rivergal on Nov 6, 2018 12:30:32 GMT -6
There was certainly a Pierre LaPointe, an early settler at Prairie du Chien, who purportedly marred a Sioux woman, Etoukasahwee, a sister of Chief Wabasha I of the Mdewakanton tribe in southeastern Minnesota. But some have claimed she was a Chippewa woman, instead. This Pierre LaPointe was born in 1747 in Canada and was a carpenter. As far as I know, he had only daughters. There was another LaPointe at Prairie du Chien at the same time, Charles, who is said to have been a close relative of Pierre--but not a brother. They are both listed on a document referring to the settlement as early as 1816. Other LaPointe men who were married at Prairie du Chien but about whom I know nothing are Francois LaPointe, married to Catherine LaRiviere in 1836; Hyacinth LaPointe married to Eliza Joillie in 1840; another or the same Hyacinth LaPointe married to Susan Molson in 1839 and another marriage for a Hyacinth LaPointe to Margaret Proveau in 1835. Jean Baptiste LaPointe "of Iowa Territory" was married to Genevieve Martel in 1846. Joachim LaPointe was married to Ursule Lavigne in 1836. Michael LaPointe was married to Mary LaPointe in 1822. Don't know how they were related, if at all. Barthelmie LaPointe was married to Julie Laurant in 1837. He has living descendants in Prairie du Chien. Sorry not to have checked in here for awhile as have been very occupied. Meanwhile, I have found a John LaPointe, who was born in 1856, in the census of 1900. If this is your ancestor, there may be a clue--Minnesota.
Name John Lapointe Event Type Census Event Year 1900 Event Place Pine Ridge Indian Agency, Meyer, South Dakota, United States Gender Male Age 44 Marital Status Married Race Indian Race In Relationship to Head of Household Head Relationship to Head of Household Head Years Married 28 Birth Date 1856 Birthplace Minnesota Marriage Year (Estimated) 1872 Father's Birthplace Canada Fr Mother's Birthplace Minnesota
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Post by Rivergal on Nov 6, 2018 13:43:52 GMT -6
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Post by Eric LaPointe on Nov 26, 2018 17:45:24 GMT -6
Hello Thanks for the reply to my message. This data on the marriages and the names will allow us to research these new sources. Maybe this could open new doors for added searching. The John living at Pine Ridge could be a half brother to my great grand father since their birth dates are a few years apart. I am still reading the large number of names listed in Minnesota data, maybe our family is from this state. All of this new information will allow us to expand our research to these names and locations. Again, Thank you for your assistance. Eric
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Post by Rivergal on Dec 1, 2018 11:42:33 GMT -6
That John LaPointe at Pine Ridge could be the same man as Jack LaPointe, your great grandfather. Dates of birth vary on the censuses, I have found. Sometimes people born of Native American women were not sure of the exact year of their birth as it was not registered. If there is a baptismal registry [individual certificates were not issued] sometimes the birth year is on that. At times, mixed blood children were not baptized until they had already lived for a few years. The Minnesota Sioux [and that was their native territory] had resident priests ever since 1840. Although the Dakota were not converted en masse, those who had fathers of French background, quite likely Catholic, usually had the children baptized in that faith.
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Post by Eric LaPointe on Dec 9, 2018 14:44:15 GMT -6
Yes. I agree that my great grand father could have several first names after the Gov't gave him a first name. Jack is short for Jacque. And he was called Pierre at birth. He was born about 1850 near Fort Robinson, Neb. His wife listed Little Warrior as his name when she applied for benefits for his service as a scout. He was shot by a railroad survey crew in the stomach in 1869. We found the name John in the censuses but we can not decide if it is our John?? Also Jack maybe had a half brother named John living on the Yankton Res. We did visit the Catholic church and we could not find his name within church events. But his mother did live on the far east side of the Res. His wife and kids were raised in the Catholic faith. Maybe our LaPointe came to the USA via Minnesota? We are still researching this state data. We will continue our search and Thank You for all of your help and guidance.
Eric LaPointe
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Post by Paul La Pointe on Oct 28, 2021 11:51:15 GMT -6
I am a lineal descendent of Nicolas Audet dit Lapointe, who settled in Quebec in the late 1600's. I know that some of his descendants married Cree, Ojibwa, Huron and Iroquois women, and many of them resided in the region around Michigan, Wisconsin and Minnesota by the late 1700's. My father's mother's side of the family was a mix of French Canadian men and Indian women. What I am wondering is whether Ernie La Pointe, grandson of Sitting Bull, and I share any common La Pointe ancestor. Does anyone know whether Ernie's La Pointe lineage attaches to Nicolas Audet dit La Pointe, and if so, how?
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Post by Irene on Feb 20, 2024 15:49:56 GMT -6
Hello i am searching my Grandmother Mary rose lapointe 1895-1978 any information would love thank you.
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Post by Richard Lapointe on Mar 27, 2024 19:59:29 GMT -6
There is a very active group of descendants of Nicolas Audet dit Lapointe in Canada, and in their latest publication, they indicate that there was a Pierre Lapointe, originally from the region of Marseilles, who emigrated to South Dakota around 1850, but it is clear that he was not related, in any way, to all the Lapointe (maybe as many as 6 altogether adopted the surname Lapointe - they were originally called Audet, Desautels, Godard, Robin, Simon and Tousignant) who had settled in Canada two centuries earlier, and who came from much farther north in France, the "most prolific one", from the region of Maulais (département des Deux-Sèvres). DNA is very useful to clear up all that confusion !!!
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